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		<title>By: I Have a Love/Hate Relationship With Psychometric Testing &#124; Stubborn Mule</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2008/08/personality/comment-page-1/#comment-4515</link>
		<dc:creator>I Have a Love/Hate Relationship With Psychometric Testing &#124; Stubborn Mule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] while ago, I had a bit of a rant in the post I Hate Personality Tests. Responding in this guest post, Maria Skarveli (who knows far more about psychology than I do) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Reduce, Re-use, Recycle &#124; A Stubborn Mule's Perspective</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2008/08/personality/comment-page-1/#comment-4110</link>
		<dc:creator>Reduce, Re-use, Recycle &#124; A Stubborn Mule's Perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I Hate Personality Tests [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2008/08/personality/comment-page-1/#comment-2976</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
Have vaguely read comments, apologise if I repeat.

I am an INTP though was 1st deemed an ISTP. I&#039;m sure this problem was a result of my inaccurate answers due to the time stress and aggrovation from excessive questions. 

I would recommend those unsure of their type to read quick summaries of similar types and see if they are more accurate. 

Oh, and when I say I&#039;m a INTP, I mean I&#039;m 80% INTP, 15% ISTP and 5% INFP. 

Also, Finding this out about myself has ended a 3 year period of uncertainty in my life, convinced me to trade business degree for science, and hopefully will help me with women... hahah what a loser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Have vaguely read comments, apologise if I repeat.</p>
<p>I am an INTP though was 1st deemed an ISTP. I&#8217;m sure this problem was a result of my inaccurate answers due to the time stress and aggrovation from excessive questions. </p>
<p>I would recommend those unsure of their type to read quick summaries of similar types and see if they are more accurate. </p>
<p>Oh, and when I say I&#8217;m a INTP, I mean I&#8217;m 80% INTP, 15% ISTP and 5% INFP. </p>
<p>Also, Finding this out about myself has ended a 3 year period of uncertainty in my life, convinced me to trade business degree for science, and hopefully will help me with women&#8230; hahah what a loser.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawning Truth</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2008/08/personality/comment-page-1/#comment-2937</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawning Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have tried the HBDI and other personality tests. I think they are reasonably reliable in a big picture way. The problem is they force you to make a choice. This biases the results, and can lead to tremendous inaccuracy, as you are effectively forcing a stress response.

I think a preference method that allows you to rate how you are, and what you prefer would be more meaningful.

Also context can play a big role. When I&#039;m writing php source code, I&#039;m very analytical. When I communicate I tend to be more strategic. When I&#039;m with my wife more emotional.

However I do still have a dominance for Strategic thinking, and Driver. Which was identified by HBDI, as well. And verified by my wife, when I argued the results. HBDI said I&#039;m good at business, which is true. I am a natural entrepreneur.

I&#039;ve had bosses before who were administrative, and I didn&#039;t get on well with them. Which is predicted by HBDI.

So I do see validity, even though the Brain Science is a bit wonky, the principles can be easily empirically verified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tried the HBDI and other personality tests. I think they are reasonably reliable in a big picture way. The problem is they force you to make a choice. This biases the results, and can lead to tremendous inaccuracy, as you are effectively forcing a stress response.</p>
<p>I think a preference method that allows you to rate how you are, and what you prefer would be more meaningful.</p>
<p>Also context can play a big role. When I&#8217;m writing php source code, I&#8217;m very analytical. When I communicate I tend to be more strategic. When I&#8217;m with my wife more emotional.</p>
<p>However I do still have a dominance for Strategic thinking, and Driver. Which was identified by HBDI, as well. And verified by my wife, when I argued the results. HBDI said I&#8217;m good at business, which is true. I am a natural entrepreneur.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had bosses before who were administrative, and I didn&#8217;t get on well with them. Which is predicted by HBDI.</p>
<p>So I do see validity, even though the Brain Science is a bit wonky, the principles can be easily empirically verified.</p>
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		<title>By: stubbornmule</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2008/08/personality/comment-page-1/#comment-1928</link>
		<dc:creator>stubbornmule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 05:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Angelica: that&#039;s easy! The alternative is not to waste time on HBDI. There&#039;s plenty of other things in life to keep us occupied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Angelica: that&#8217;s easy! The alternative is not to waste time on HBDI. There&#8217;s plenty of other things in life to keep us occupied.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelica</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2008/08/personality/comment-page-1/#comment-1927</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 01:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And there is what some alternative? ;)</description>
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		<title>By: stubbornmule</title>
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		<dc:creator>stubbornmule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to Leon&#039;s comment above, his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.occamsdonkey.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Occam&#039;s Donkey&lt;/a&gt; blog (no afiliation!) has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.occamsdonkey.com/2008/01/brain-profiling-science-or.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post on brain profiling&lt;/a&gt; which discusses HBDI. Here&#039;s a quote that fits my theme: &quot;Herrmann International claim that the HBDI is valid and reliable, but according to Prof. De Amato in the &lt;i&gt;The Eleventh Mental Measurements Yearbook, 1992&lt;/i&gt;, both validity and reliability are questionable.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to Leon&#8217;s comment above, his <a href="http://www.occamsdonkey.com/">Occam&#8217;s Donkey</a> blog (no afiliation!) has a <a href="http://www.occamsdonkey.com/2008/01/brain-profiling-science-or.html">post on brain profiling</a> which discusses HBDI. Here&#8217;s a quote that fits my theme: &#8220;Herrmann International claim that the HBDI is valid and reliable, but according to Prof. De Amato in the <i>The Eleventh Mental Measurements Yearbook, 1992</i>, both validity and reliability are questionable.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: stubbornmule</title>
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		<dc:creator>stubbornmule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Leon: I&#039;m more than happy for you to use my Zodiac/HBDI mashup. I read your post and was alarmed at the idea of these sorts of profiles being used on kids. As you say, shades of Gattaca!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Leon: I&#8217;m more than happy for you to use my Zodiac/HBDI mashup. I read your post and was alarmed at the idea of these sorts of profiles being used on kids. As you say, shades of Gattaca!</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Stander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon Stander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sean

Came across your blog while I was trawling the web for info on brain profiling for a series of blog posts on mind myths. We seem to have some of the same concerns - and equine blog names! Mine is Occam&#039;s Donkey. 

I have blogged a number of times on brain profiling (and the HBDI), all of which I am very critical of. The neuroscience behind these ideas is very outdated and evidence for effectiveness in my field, education, limited. 

I have taken the liberty of using your image of the brain profile inside the Zodiac, trust it&#039;s OK - I have acknowledged you. The blog post was dated 24 September.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sean</p>
<p>Came across your blog while I was trawling the web for info on brain profiling for a series of blog posts on mind myths. We seem to have some of the same concerns &#8211; and equine blog names! Mine is Occam&#8217;s Donkey. </p>
<p>I have blogged a number of times on brain profiling (and the HBDI), all of which I am very critical of. The neuroscience behind these ideas is very outdated and evidence for effectiveness in my field, education, limited. </p>
<p>I have taken the liberty of using your image of the brain profile inside the Zodiac, trust it&#8217;s OK &#8211; I have acknowledged you. The blog post was dated 24 September.</p>
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		<title>By: stubbornmule</title>
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		<dc:creator>stubbornmule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who haven&#039;t seen it, I&#039;ve &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stubbornmule.net/2008/09/personality-tests-final/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;posted again&lt;/a&gt; on the topic of personality testing. This time, I&#039;ve shared some thoughts from a psychiatrist friend of mine.

@Elias: thanks for your comments. I take your point that I&#039;ve played a little fast and loose with the term &quot;personality&quot; and that HBDI do prefer the language &quot;thinking styles&quot;. Even so, I don&#039;t think that saves it completely from some of my criticisms that it relies more on people eagerly finding themselves in the results than on a sound scientific basis. If you haven&#039;t already read the latest post on the subject (link in the previous paragraph), I&#039;d be interested in your reaction to the observations there.

@Jodie: Regardless of my criticisms, there is no doubt that many people enjoy the process just as you did. Also, even if my criticisms are valid (and I am prepared to accept that as a nay-saying skeptic I may go too far), that does not mean that HBDI and other tools cannot be value not so much in their own right, but as a catalyst for self-reflection. Whether or not we are honest with ourselves, is another question, of course!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who haven&#8217;t seen it, I&#8217;ve <a href="http://www.stubbornmule.net/2008/09/personality-tests-final/">posted again</a> on the topic of personality testing. This time, I&#8217;ve shared some thoughts from a psychiatrist friend of mine.</p>
<p>@Elias: thanks for your comments. I take your point that I&#8217;ve played a little fast and loose with the term &#8220;personality&#8221; and that HBDI do prefer the language &#8220;thinking styles&#8221;. Even so, I don&#8217;t think that saves it completely from some of my criticisms that it relies more on people eagerly finding themselves in the results than on a sound scientific basis. If you haven&#8217;t already read the latest post on the subject (link in the previous paragraph), I&#8217;d be interested in your reaction to the observations there.</p>
<p>@Jodie: Regardless of my criticisms, there is no doubt that many people enjoy the process just as you did. Also, even if my criticisms are valid (and I am prepared to accept that as a nay-saying skeptic I may go too far), that does not mean that HBDI and other tools cannot be value not so much in their own right, but as a catalyst for self-reflection. Whether or not we are honest with ourselves, is another question, of course!</p>
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