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	<title>Comments on: Dropbox</title>
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	<description>Obstinately objective</description>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2008/10/dropbox/comment-page-1/#comment-5410</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, nice page and blog. Really neat. also Dropbox is cool, looks similar to Box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, nice page and blog. Really neat. also Dropbox is cool, looks similar to Box.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2008/10/dropbox/comment-page-1/#comment-5409</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like and use DriveHQ Online Backup Service.
Reasons:
Integrated with Windows file manager.
Reliable and stable software.(Windows only)
Realtime or scheduled backup.
Backup of files in use.
Backup Folders or individual files.
Retention of file versions as changes are made.
Reasonably priced.
1 Gig free.
The Company is focussed on quality.
I believe their product is underrated. Probably one of the very best services available.
See my website for discussions and recommendations on this subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like and use DriveHQ Online Backup Service.<br />
Reasons:<br />
Integrated with Windows file manager.<br />
Reliable and stable software.(Windows only)<br />
Realtime or scheduled backup.<br />
Backup of files in use.<br />
Backup Folders or individual files.<br />
Retention of file versions as changes are made.<br />
Reasonably priced.<br />
1 Gig free.<br />
The Company is focussed on quality.<br />
I believe their product is underrated. Probably one of the very best services available.<br />
See my website for discussions and recommendations on this subject.</p>
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		<title>By: stubbornmule</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2008/10/dropbox/comment-page-1/#comment-2267</link>
		<dc:creator>stubbornmule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Henrik: you make a very good point. Amazon S3 costs US$0.10 for transfer in and US$0.17 for transfer out, so on top of the $7.50 cost per month for 50GB on S3, it would cost you $5 to upload the data in the first place $8.50 to download everything again. As you say, there are no transfer charges for Dropbox. Of course, if you only used 25GB on S3, all of the costs would be halved while Dropbox would still cost $10 per month.

Overall, these pricing differences are a reflection of the different nature of the two services: Jungle Disk notwithstanding, S3 is designed for commercial use by websites, while Dropbox is targetting individual users.

I should also add that in the months since I originally wrote this post, I have been using Dropbox more and more (and Jungle Disk less and less!). It is an excellent service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Henrik: you make a very good point. Amazon S3 costs US$0.10 for transfer in and US$0.17 for transfer out, so on top of the $7.50 cost per month for 50GB on S3, it would cost you $5 to upload the data in the first place $8.50 to download everything again. As you say, there are no transfer charges for Dropbox. Of course, if you only used 25GB on S3, all of the costs would be halved while Dropbox would still cost $10 per month.</p>
<p>Overall, these pricing differences are a reflection of the different nature of the two services: Jungle Disk notwithstanding, S3 is designed for commercial use by websites, while Dropbox is targetting individual users.</p>
<p>I should also add that in the months since I originally wrote this post, I have been using Dropbox more and more (and Jungle Disk less and less!). It is an excellent service.</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik Lerving</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2008/10/dropbox/comment-page-1/#comment-2266</link>
		<dc:creator>Henrik Lerving</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Amazon S3 costs US$0.15 per GB, so 50GB would cost $7.50.


Thats a good observation but you forgot the bandwidth cost that you would also spent if you would sign up directly with S3. As far as I can see dropbox also use S3 but does not charge clients for bandwidth. 

/Henrik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Amazon S3 costs US$0.15 per GB, so 50GB would cost $7.50.</p>
<p>Thats a good observation but you forgot the bandwidth cost that you would also spent if you would sign up directly with S3. As far as I can see dropbox also use S3 but does not charge clients for bandwidth. </p>
<p>/Henrik</p>
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		<title>By: Alec Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2008/10/dropbox/comment-page-1/#comment-1948</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I protect my files and emails with a very easy to use &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.titanbackup.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; data backup software called Titan Backup&lt;/a&gt;,  the destination is a 500gb WD harddisk, but the company stated that an online feature is under work also. Give it a  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.titanbackup.com/download.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;free trial here&lt;/a&gt;.

I also got my hands on a 30% discount coupon from them, during the order process enter this coupon:NEOB-M5VL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I protect my files and emails with a very easy to use <a href="http://www.titanbackup.com"> data backup software called Titan Backup</a>,  the destination is a 500gb WD harddisk, but the company stated that an online feature is under work also. Give it a  <a href="http://www.titanbackup.com/download.html">free trial here</a>.</p>
<p>I also got my hands on a 30% discount coupon from them, during the order process enter this coupon:NEOB-M5VL</p>
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		<title>By: BG</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2008/10/dropbox/comment-page-1/#comment-1940</link>
		<dc:creator>BG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean - couple of points that are worth thinking about:

* The exposure of data to the laws of other countries. The data stored with many of these services is presumably in US data centres and is almost certainly subject to US access laws. But of course there is no reason why the data has to be stored in the US (other than the current comparably low cost of bandwidth). It could easily be stored in any country, or even multiple jurisdictions at the same time with the rise in grid computing. Indeed it is likely the user will not even know the country the data is stored in. Probably doesn&#039;t matter for your photos, but this should be considered. Naturally this point holds for most &#039;cloud&#039; services.

* Isn&#039;t it a shame that the co-location and other related services in Australia make it uneconomic for these types of business to operate out of AUS. It&#039;s really holding back industry growth here.

* Even Australian residential and many cases business Internet plans make it difficult to use some of these services because of the monthly data volume caps. Presumably unless these ISP plans change the providers of services like this are going to have to do deals with the ISPs to have data through the services excluded from the caps to gain significant numbers of regular users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean &#8211; couple of points that are worth thinking about:</p>
<p>* The exposure of data to the laws of other countries. The data stored with many of these services is presumably in US data centres and is almost certainly subject to US access laws. But of course there is no reason why the data has to be stored in the US (other than the current comparably low cost of bandwidth). It could easily be stored in any country, or even multiple jurisdictions at the same time with the rise in grid computing. Indeed it is likely the user will not even know the country the data is stored in. Probably doesn&#8217;t matter for your photos, but this should be considered. Naturally this point holds for most &#8216;cloud&#8217; services.</p>
<p>* Isn&#8217;t it a shame that the co-location and other related services in Australia make it uneconomic for these types of business to operate out of AUS. It&#8217;s really holding back industry growth here.</p>
<p>* Even Australian residential and many cases business Internet plans make it difficult to use some of these services because of the monthly data volume caps. Presumably unless these ISP plans change the providers of services like this are going to have to do deals with the ISPs to have data through the services excluded from the caps to gain significant numbers of regular users.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2008/10/dropbox/comment-page-1/#comment-1914</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might want to check out ElephantDrive - for me it is sort of a combination between DropBox and JungleDisk.  They use S3 for overflow but offer fixed pricing.  I started using it just for backup but found out they have a mapped drive available that goes directly to your account (not very well marketed on their site, which is strange because it is pretty sweet).   The effect is that any box I&#039;m running the map drive on is synched (though, sometimes I need to refresh manually to get the latest).  

It is nice having one service take care of both.

Food for thought...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might want to check out ElephantDrive &#8211; for me it is sort of a combination between DropBox and JungleDisk.  They use S3 for overflow but offer fixed pricing.  I started using it just for backup but found out they have a mapped drive available that goes directly to your account (not very well marketed on their site, which is strange because it is pretty sweet).   The effect is that any box I&#8217;m running the map drive on is synched (though, sometimes I need to refresh manually to get the latest).  </p>
<p>It is nice having one service take care of both.</p>
<p>Food for thought&#8230;</p>
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