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	<description>Obstinately objective</description>
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		<title>By: nabha</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2009/07/visualizing-the-hottest-100/comment-page-1/#comment-4954</link>
		<dc:creator>nabha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hate nirvana 
i want to die</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hate nirvana<br />
i want to die</p>
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		<title>By: stubbornmule</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2009/07/visualizing-the-hottest-100/comment-page-1/#comment-3922</link>
		<dc:creator>stubbornmule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The code for the charts is now &lt;a href=&quot;http://github.com/seancarmody/stubborn-mule/tree/45879b845b54549b19090100298f43265a710327/Hottest-100&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in github&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The code for the charts is now <a href="http://github.com/seancarmody/stubborn-mule/tree/45879b845b54549b19090100298f43265a710327/Hottest-100">in github</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: stubbornmule</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2009/07/visualizing-the-hottest-100/comment-page-1/#comment-3918</link>
		<dc:creator>stubbornmule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Carlos: &lt;/b&gt;I have been meaning to add this code to my github repository. I will do it as soon as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Carlos: </b>I have been meaning to add this code to my github repository. I will do it as soon as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Ortega</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos Ortega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, 

I&#039;d like to know if you could post the code you used at R to program the graphics in this post, because I need a graph like the one you did with the names of the songs but I don&#039;t know how to do it.

Thanks so much</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to know if you could post the code you used at R to program the graphics in this post, because I need a graph like the one you did with the names of the songs but I don&#8217;t know how to do it.</p>
<p>Thanks so much</p>
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		<title>By: The Triple J Hottest 100 &#171; Mike Pickard&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2009/07/visualizing-the-hottest-100/comment-page-1/#comment-3898</link>
		<dc:creator>The Triple J Hottest 100 &#171; Mike Pickard&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 05:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8211; not perfect, but pretty darned close; and to @seancarmody for his excellent quantifiable stats. on the final results. Good stuff. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)The Triple J Hottest [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; not perfect, but pretty darned close; and to @seancarmody for his excellent quantifiable stats. on the final results. Good stuff. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)The Triple J Hottest [...]</p>
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		<title>By: stubbornmule</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2009/07/visualizing-the-hottest-100/comment-page-1/#comment-3430</link>
		<dc:creator>stubbornmule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a different sort of demographic, I&#039;ve analysed the Guardian&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stubbornmule.net/2009/07/love-old-fashioned/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1000 songs to hear before you die&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a different sort of demographic, I&#8217;ve analysed the Guardian&#8217;s <a href="http://www.stubbornmule.net/2009/07/love-old-fashioned/">1000 songs to hear before you die</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Love is Old-Fashioned &#124; A Stubborn Mule's Perspective</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2009/07/visualizing-the-hottest-100/comment-page-1/#comment-3412</link>
		<dc:creator>Love is Old-Fashioned &#124; A Stubborn Mule's Perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on from my post on Visualizing the Hottest 100, I noticed that the UK&#8217;s Guardian newspaper has published a list of 1000 songs to hear before [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on from my post on Visualizing the Hottest 100, I noticed that the UK&#8217;s Guardian newspaper has published a list of 1000 songs to hear before [...]</p>
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		<title>By: get big, little kid</title>
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		<dc:creator>get big, little kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hottest 100 of all time? No, I didn&#8217;t think so.. To jog your memory, here is a neat way of visualising the list. (via [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hottest 100 of all time? No, I didn&#8217;t think so.. To jog your memory, here is a neat way of visualising the list. (via [...]</p>
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		<title>By: stubbornmule</title>
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		<dc:creator>stubbornmule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, you make an interesting point about 1997 rating so well in the list. I make the top years as follows:

1997: 11 (of which 2 are Radiohead)
1994: 9 (of which 4 are Jeff Buckley)
1991: 7 (of which 3 are Nirvana)
1995: 5 (of which 1 is Radiohead)
2000: 5

So, once you count for the high ranking acts, 1997 is a standout winner. But, the best single year of music ever? Now that&#039;s a big call. According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2006/01/04/BBC-BestMusicYear.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Radio 2 listeners in the UK it was 1967&lt;/a&gt;. Being a bit older than you, I&#039;d probably pick a year in the late 70s or early 80s. But, I&#039;d have to agree that there&#039;s certainly something to explain there about 1997. For those wishing to reflect on that question, here is the list, complete with Hottest 100 rank:

5.   Paranoid Android, Radiohead
9 .  Everlong, Foo Fighters
14. Bittersweet Symphony, The Verve
15. Karma Police, Radiohead
34. Prisoner of Society, The Living End
36. Into My Arms Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
57. Forty-Six &amp; 2, Tool
58. Around the World, Daft Punk
61. Song 2, Blur
67. Brick, Ben Folds Five
75. Good Riddance (Time of Your Life), Green Day

Meanwhile, here is a mini-poll on &lt;a href=&quot;http://answers.polldaddy.com/poll/1794499&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;best year of music ever&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, you make an interesting point about 1997 rating so well in the list. I make the top years as follows:</p>
<p>1997: 11 (of which 2 are Radiohead)<br />
1994: 9 (of which 4 are Jeff Buckley)<br />
1991: 7 (of which 3 are Nirvana)<br />
1995: 5 (of which 1 is Radiohead)<br />
2000: 5</p>
<p>So, once you count for the high ranking acts, 1997 is a standout winner. But, the best single year of music ever? Now that&#8217;s a big call. According to <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2006/01/04/BBC-BestMusicYear.html">Radio 2 listeners in the UK it was 1967</a>. Being a bit older than you, I&#8217;d probably pick a year in the late 70s or early 80s. But, I&#8217;d have to agree that there&#8217;s certainly something to explain there about 1997. For those wishing to reflect on that question, here is the list, complete with Hottest 100 rank:</p>
<p>5.   Paranoid Android, Radiohead<br />
9 .  Everlong, Foo Fighters<br />
14. Bittersweet Symphony, The Verve<br />
15. Karma Police, Radiohead<br />
34. Prisoner of Society, The Living End<br />
36. Into My Arms Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds<br />
57. Forty-Six &#038; 2, Tool<br />
58. Around the World, Daft Punk<br />
61. Song 2, Blur<br />
67. Brick, Ben Folds Five<br />
75. Good Riddance (Time of Your Life), Green Day</p>
<p>Meanwhile, here is a mini-poll on <a href="http://answers.polldaddy.com/poll/1794499">best year of music ever</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Seeing the data just as points like this shows a concentration of tracks released around the mid-90s. A histogram of the year of release confirms this.

Of course, I’m sure this says more about the demographics of voters than the preponderance of true classics in the 90s.&quot;

I disagree. I suggest you compare the concentration of songs in this year&#039;s countdown to that of the 1998 countdown. This year, by my reckoning there were 12 songs from 1997, 9 from 1994 and 7 from 1991. Compare this to what happened in 1998 - 15 songs from 1997, 13 from 1994 and 7 from 1991.

According to the demographic logic, either one of these two things would have happened: (a) there would have been a lot more songs from the 2000&#039;s in this year&#039;s countdown (i.e. songs that are pretty recent) OR (b) there would have been a lot more songs from the 1980&#039;s in the 1998 countdown (i.e. songs that were 10-20 or so years old at that time).

Instead, what actually happened seems to be this - 1991 you can thank Nirvana for, 1994 you can thank Jeff Buckley for, but 1997 you can&#039;t really thank anybody for, which just goes to show what I&#039;ve always said: that 1997 was the best single year of music ever!

The countdown also goes to show that music (at least the stuff Triple J plays) has been on the downward spiral ever since, as demonstrated by the low number of recent songs in the countdown!!

Being 26 years old myself I am going to be somewhat biased, as the 90&#039;s is the music I grew up with, but Triple J listeners aren&#039;t all 26 years old, nor are they all 15 as I was in 1998! At some point the masses have seen the light!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Seeing the data just as points like this shows a concentration of tracks released around the mid-90s. A histogram of the year of release confirms this.</p>
<p>Of course, I’m sure this says more about the demographics of voters than the preponderance of true classics in the 90s.&#8221;</p>
<p>I disagree. I suggest you compare the concentration of songs in this year&#8217;s countdown to that of the 1998 countdown. This year, by my reckoning there were 12 songs from 1997, 9 from 1994 and 7 from 1991. Compare this to what happened in 1998 &#8211; 15 songs from 1997, 13 from 1994 and 7 from 1991.</p>
<p>According to the demographic logic, either one of these two things would have happened: (a) there would have been a lot more songs from the 2000&#8217;s in this year&#8217;s countdown (i.e. songs that are pretty recent) OR (b) there would have been a lot more songs from the 1980&#8217;s in the 1998 countdown (i.e. songs that were 10-20 or so years old at that time).</p>
<p>Instead, what actually happened seems to be this &#8211; 1991 you can thank Nirvana for, 1994 you can thank Jeff Buckley for, but 1997 you can&#8217;t really thank anybody for, which just goes to show what I&#8217;ve always said: that 1997 was the best single year of music ever!</p>
<p>The countdown also goes to show that music (at least the stuff Triple J plays) has been on the downward spiral ever since, as demonstrated by the low number of recent songs in the countdown!!</p>
<p>Being 26 years old myself I am going to be somewhat biased, as the 90&#8217;s is the music I grew up with, but Triple J listeners aren&#8217;t all 26 years old, nor are they all 15 as I was in 1998! At some point the masses have seen the light!!</p>
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