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		<title>By: stubbornmule</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2009/09/muddle-of-macroeconomics/comment-page-1/#comment-4244</link>
		<dc:creator>stubbornmule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Marco:&lt;/b&gt; thanks for the pointer to Beat the Press. I will add it to my reading list, and I can only hope it helps me to sort out this muddle of macroeconomics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Marco:</b> thanks for the pointer to Beat the Press. I will add it to my reading list, and I can only hope it helps me to sort out this muddle of macroeconomics.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2009/09/muddle-of-macroeconomics/comment-page-1/#comment-4233</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 23:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stubborn Mule,

I just discovered your own blog and I&#039;d say it&#039;s quite good: critical but fair and balanced opinions. Which is way more than one finds in many an economic blog.

And I couldn&#039;t agree more on the subject of ideology and economics. What you may have missed is a detail: it is on the political arena that decisions are made; those who have more political clout, often get their ideological goals satisfied (and often, too, to the loss of other less-represented players).

Anyway, a suggestion to your own list: Dean Baker&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://prospect.org/csnc/blogs/beat_the_press&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Beat the Press&lt;/a&gt;. He is an American economist and his comments are based on American media. 

This in itself should not disqualify Beat the Press to Australian readers, though, as I believe the US and Australian policy debates are strikingly parallel. 

Not very strong on data, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stubborn Mule,</p>
<p>I just discovered your own blog and I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s quite good: critical but fair and balanced opinions. Which is way more than one finds in many an economic blog.</p>
<p>And I couldn&#8217;t agree more on the subject of ideology and economics. What you may have missed is a detail: it is on the political arena that decisions are made; those who have more political clout, often get their ideological goals satisfied (and often, too, to the loss of other less-represented players).</p>
<p>Anyway, a suggestion to your own list: Dean Baker&#8217;s <a href="http://prospect.org/csnc/blogs/beat_the_press">Beat the Press</a>. He is an American economist and his comments are based on American media. </p>
<p>This in itself should not disqualify Beat the Press to Australian readers, though, as I believe the US and Australian policy debates are strikingly parallel. </p>
<p>Not very strong on data, though.</p>
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		<title>By: stubbornmule</title>
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		<dc:creator>stubbornmule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 07:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;James:&lt;/b&gt; I have updated the post to make a reference to your point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>James:</b> I have updated the post to make a reference to your point.</p>
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		<title>By: stubbornmule</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2009/09/muddle-of-macroeconomics/comment-page-1/#comment-4050</link>
		<dc:creator>stubbornmule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 07:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;James: &lt;/b&gt;You make a good point. In fact, even in the case of fixed rate borrowers it is really only inflation that is higher than expected that is particularly good. If inflation is positive but at or below the level that the market was expecting, the fixed rate borrower is not better off as the already paid for the expected rate of inflation. A similar point holds for variable rate borrowers, although as you you say there are timing issues. It depends on what the mechanism is for the variable rate to change.

I think the same focus on fixed rate borrowing and lending is a big factor in the widespread assumption that steep yield curves are good for banks (who lend long and borrow short) and flat yield curves bad. In fact, since so much lending is either variable rate or hedged, I would argue that this is not really true anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>James: </b>You make a good point. In fact, even in the case of fixed rate borrowers it is really only inflation that is higher than expected that is particularly good. If inflation is positive but at or below the level that the market was expecting, the fixed rate borrower is not better off as the already paid for the expected rate of inflation. A similar point holds for variable rate borrowers, although as you you say there are timing issues. It depends on what the mechanism is for the variable rate to change.</p>
<p>I think the same focus on fixed rate borrowing and lending is a big factor in the widespread assumption that steep yield curves are good for banks (who lend long and borrow short) and flat yield curves bad. In fact, since so much lending is either variable rate or hedged, I would argue that this is not really true anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 07:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039; high interest rates are bad for borrowers and good for depositors.&#039; I think this is obviously only true for floating rate borrowers and depositors

&#039;Inflation is good for borrowers and bad for lenders.&#039; Less obviously this is only true for fixed rate borrowers and lenders. For variable rate borrowers the inflationary benefit of a real value reduction in notional being closely offset by the increase in nominal interest rates due to inflation. I accept there are some timing and measurement issues here but this truism gets quoted so often without any qualification I wondered why. I think it could be that until relatively recently US borrowers and investors did so mostly at fixed rates, particularly in the residential mortgage market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216; high interest rates are bad for borrowers and good for depositors.&#8217; I think this is obviously only true for floating rate borrowers and depositors</p>
<p>&#8216;Inflation is good for borrowers and bad for lenders.&#8217; Less obviously this is only true for fixed rate borrowers and lenders. For variable rate borrowers the inflationary benefit of a real value reduction in notional being closely offset by the increase in nominal interest rates due to inflation. I accept there are some timing and measurement issues here but this truism gets quoted so often without any qualification I wondered why. I think it could be that until relatively recently US borrowers and investors did so mostly at fixed rates, particularly in the residential mortgage market.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramanan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sean,

Thanks for the welcome. You may find basic ideas of the book in &lt;em&gt;Money, finance and national income determination: An integrated approach&lt;/em&gt; by Godley at http://www.levy.org/pubs/wp167.pdf - The book has the advantage of being very pedagogical and has the expertise of Marc Lavoie as well and is a great improvement. Also, it considers economy in parts, closed with no private sector, economy with no government and then everything together and in the end - open economies. This is great since one can learn economies in part instead of trying to solve everything at one go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sean,</p>
<p>Thanks for the welcome. You may find basic ideas of the book in <em>Money, finance and national income determination: An integrated approach</em> by Godley at <a href="http://www.levy.org/pubs/wp167.pdf">http://www.levy.org/pubs/wp167.pdf</a> &#8211; The book has the advantage of being very pedagogical and has the expertise of Marc Lavoie as well and is a great improvement. Also, it considers economy in parts, closed with no private sector, economy with no government and then everything together and in the end &#8211; open economies. This is great since one can learn economies in part instead of trying to solve everything at one go.</p>
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		<title>By: stubbornmule</title>
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		<dc:creator>stubbornmule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Ramanan: &lt;/b&gt;welcome to the Mule! I haven&#039;t seen that Godley and Lavoie book. Thanks for pointing it out. Like you, I very much enjoy Bill&#039;s blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Ramanan: </b>welcome to the Mule! I haven&#8217;t seen that Godley and Lavoie book. Thanks for pointing it out. Like you, I very much enjoy Bill&#8217;s blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramanan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 09:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sean,

This is Ramanan, a frequent commenter on Billy Blog. 

Firstly thanks for your comment on reserve requirements and many more comments. I too didn&#039;t have any background in Economics and my education is in Theoretical Physics. In the last 6 months or so, I have become increasingly interested in Economics and fortunately reached Billy Blog as soon as I started, thanks to Google and discomfort in my stomach. 

I am waiting for his book with Randy Wray and will ship it to India as soon as Amazon releases it. I have been reading a book by Wynne Godley and Marc Lavoie who use the Stock-Flow consistent approach Bill talks of in his blog. http://www.amazon.com/Monetary-Economics-Integrated-Approach-Production/dp/0230500552. Have you seen it ? I got it shipped by express courier as soon as I came to know of this book :). It is really an amazing book. It has given me a framework on how to think about the issues - judge for myself - who is speaking sense and who is speaking garbage etc. 

Coming back to blogs, Bill&#039;s blog is really amazing - he keeps exposing myths one by one with so much patience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sean,</p>
<p>This is Ramanan, a frequent commenter on Billy Blog. </p>
<p>Firstly thanks for your comment on reserve requirements and many more comments. I too didn&#8217;t have any background in Economics and my education is in Theoretical Physics. In the last 6 months or so, I have become increasingly interested in Economics and fortunately reached Billy Blog as soon as I started, thanks to Google and discomfort in my stomach. </p>
<p>I am waiting for his book with Randy Wray and will ship it to India as soon as Amazon releases it. I have been reading a book by Wynne Godley and Marc Lavoie who use the Stock-Flow consistent approach Bill talks of in his blog. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Monetary-Economics-Integrated-Approach-Production/dp/0230500552">http://www.amazon.com/Monetary-Economics-Integrated-Approach-Production/dp/0230500552</a>. Have you seen it ? I got it shipped by express courier as soon as I came to know of this book :). It is really an amazing book. It has given me a framework on how to think about the issues &#8211; judge for myself &#8211; who is speaking sense and who is speaking garbage etc. </p>
<p>Coming back to blogs, Bill&#8217;s blog is really amazing &#8211; he keeps exposing myths one by one with so much patience.</p>
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