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	<description>Obstinately objective</description>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2010/01/left-right-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-7542</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SM, probably got it off Ron Paul.....though the Austrian view and Mises&#039;, has some indisputable logic. It just takes decades to come to fruition I think.  They understand credit very well, and how it imposes the obligation it be used productively, enough to preserve the principal and create the interest.... This is ignoring inflation of course.....Unfortunately, most don&#039;t use credit productively, truly productively.

And imho, those who understand credit well, understand inflation and economic cycles well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SM, probably got it off Ron Paul&#8230;..though the Austrian view and Mises&#8217;, has some indisputable logic. It just takes decades to come to fruition I think.  They understand credit very well, and how it imposes the obligation it be used productively, enough to preserve the principal and create the interest&#8230;. This is ignoring inflation of course&#8230;..Unfortunately, most don&#8217;t use credit productively, truly productively.</p>
<p>And imho, those who understand credit well, understand inflation and economic cycles well.</p>
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		<title>By: Stubborn Mule</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2010/01/left-right-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-7541</link>
		<dc:creator>Stubborn Mule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 12:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on a linguistic analysis, Bruce, I would guess you are an adherent of the Austrian School. The phrase &quot;sticky fingered govts&quot; gives it away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on a linguistic analysis, Bruce, I would guess you are an adherent of the Austrian School. The phrase &#8220;sticky fingered govts&#8221; gives it away.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2010/01/left-right-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-7540</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marco, 

Prove climate change is a bad thing in its net effect on the planet and  humans. Bjorn Lomborg has spelt out the benefits of a warmer planet.

Prove whatever ETS action is taken now to turn the tide will reverse or slow whatever lies ahead.

Prove ETS will stop emerging nations from knocking out rainforests. 

Prove that any seconding of ETS taxes by sticky fingered govts will make a measurable difference to whatever ETS supporters want to spend the money on....let alone lead to quicker better discoveries of cleaner energy sources.

IMHO, the most sure fire way to lower human impact on the planet is to reduce the human population.....and what is any Australian politician doing to achieve that? 

As for the Coalition, they are as uninspired as ever. So what&#039;s the common denominator with Labor? an uninformed apathetic electorate. 

As usual in history, not until our lifestyles are eroded dramatically, will we get sensible govt on any issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marco, </p>
<p>Prove climate change is a bad thing in its net effect on the planet and  humans. Bjorn Lomborg has spelt out the benefits of a warmer planet.</p>
<p>Prove whatever ETS action is taken now to turn the tide will reverse or slow whatever lies ahead.</p>
<p>Prove ETS will stop emerging nations from knocking out rainforests. </p>
<p>Prove that any seconding of ETS taxes by sticky fingered govts will make a measurable difference to whatever ETS supporters want to spend the money on&#8230;.let alone lead to quicker better discoveries of cleaner energy sources.</p>
<p>IMHO, the most sure fire way to lower human impact on the planet is to reduce the human population&#8230;..and what is any Australian politician doing to achieve that? </p>
<p>As for the Coalition, they are as uninspired as ever. So what&#8217;s the common denominator with Labor? an uninformed apathetic electorate. </p>
<p>As usual in history, not until our lifestyles are eroded dramatically, will we get sensible govt on any issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2010/01/left-right-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-7539</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bruce,

You&#039;ve managed to prove that Labor sucks! That&#039;s great and I couldn&#039;t agree more.

How does this prove climate change is not happening, though, wasn&#039;t clear. Would you mind explaining?

Or how is the Coalition any better?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bruce,</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve managed to prove that Labor sucks! That&#8217;s great and I couldn&#8217;t agree more.</p>
<p>How does this prove climate change is not happening, though, wasn&#8217;t clear. Would you mind explaining?</p>
<p>Or how is the Coalition any better?</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2010/01/left-right-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-7538</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nah....no one thinks Plimer has any credibility......including his dog. 

Marco, nah big scarey issues like

- how much money Labor burnt on peddling ETS, and quickly forgot about it after Copenhagen. If we&#039;re all in such peril of drowning, why has Rudd stopped pushing that barrel, and moved onto Medi-wtf.....obviously it was all a tad sensationalized.....don&#039;t you think?

- the Minister for Bilbies refusing to let SE Qld build  a new dam, even though Captain Bligh wanted it because current reserves got down to 15% a few years back, and Captain Rudd wants at least another 15% people in SEQ by 2014. wtf?

- Labor being so perplexed about population growth, we need a new minister for it. .... pfffttt.....what a crock....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nah&#8230;.no one thinks Plimer has any credibility&#8230;&#8230;including his dog. </p>
<p>Marco, nah big scarey issues like</p>
<p>- how much money Labor burnt on peddling ETS, and quickly forgot about it after Copenhagen. If we&#8217;re all in such peril of drowning, why has Rudd stopped pushing that barrel, and moved onto Medi-wtf&#8230;..obviously it was all a tad sensationalized&#8230;..don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p>- the Minister for Bilbies refusing to let SE Qld build  a new dam, even though Captain Bligh wanted it because current reserves got down to 15% a few years back, and Captain Rudd wants at least another 15% people in SEQ by 2014. wtf?</p>
<p>- Labor being so perplexed about population growth, we need a new minister for it. &#8230;. pfffttt&#8230;..what a crock&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Yee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Yee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who thinks Plimer has any credibility on climate change should read http://www.complex.org.au/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=91</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who thinks Plimer has any credibility on climate change should read <a href="http://www.complex.org.au/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=91">http://www.complex.org.au/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=91</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah! I see, big scary issues, like Australia being about to default its debt...

Or that we are about to go into inflation hyperdrive.

Or that the climate change thing is all a communist conspiracy to create a world government...

Puleese</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah! I see, big scary issues, like Australia being about to default its debt&#8230;</p>
<p>Or that we are about to go into inflation hyperdrive.</p>
<p>Or that the climate change thing is all a communist conspiracy to create a world government&#8230;</p>
<p>Puleese</p>
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		<title>By: Ramanan</title>
		<link>http://www.stubbornmule.net/2010/01/left-right-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-5856</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Sean,

Lord Monckton is travellling Australia. You must be hearing about him a lot. He has interesting stuff to say about Left-Right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Sean,</p>
<p>Lord Monckton is travellling Australia. You must be hearing about him a lot. He has interesting stuff to say about Left-Right.</p>
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		<title>By: Duelling Lords &#171; Neil&#39;s second decade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duelling Lords &#171; Neil&#39;s second decade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a fascinating post I have just discovered: Left, Right and Climate Change. In the wake of the singularly unproductive COP15 Climate Change conference in Copenhagen, I have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a fascinating post I have just discovered: Left, Right and Climate Change. In the wake of the singularly unproductive COP15 Climate Change conference in Copenhagen, I have [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Left like &#039;big&#039; scarey issues because they can use them to scare the electorate into larger more interventionist Big Brother govt. I mean like, what&#039;s a Left wing ideologue polie going to do if the free markets are jugging along nicely thankyou very much, efficiently matching supply to demand, and generating enough wealth to pass around and keep all out of the poor house?


Thank the Lord Penny and Peter guarantee to save us from skin cancer. 

Which is another thing. Why do journos not insist on leftist govts elaborating the probability of successfully combating global warming. 

And how come no one talks about the most effective means to reduce global warming.......reduce the human population. Why is Australia being encouraged by Rudd to increase our popn by 1.5-2% pa...the highest rate in the developed world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Left like &#8216;big&#8217; scarey issues because they can use them to scare the electorate into larger more interventionist Big Brother govt. I mean like, what&#8217;s a Left wing ideologue polie going to do if the free markets are jugging along nicely thankyou very much, efficiently matching supply to demand, and generating enough wealth to pass around and keep all out of the poor house?</p>
<p>Thank the Lord Penny and Peter guarantee to save us from skin cancer. </p>
<p>Which is another thing. Why do journos not insist on leftist govts elaborating the probability of successfully combating global warming. </p>
<p>And how come no one talks about the most effective means to reduce global warming&#8230;&#8230;.reduce the human population. Why is Australia being encouraged by Rudd to increase our popn by 1.5-2% pa&#8230;the highest rate in the developed world?</p>
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